{SOLO}WAR THREAD III - Come Back With Your Shield or On It

[morissey]

Me and Morissey...

It was some 100k NW uphit...too hard to find a target up there so i choose the hardest nearer to me. Goodluck.

Hope no one interferes here...

He´s taken a lot of my buildings but I just left him with 5600 acres. Unfortunately, my training rate is now around 3300 and my economy is shit but at least he´s little .

[alexxxed]

well ok...you won. i hit you out of boredom and miscalculation. i had now 6kish buildings left while you had around 8kish building on your now 50kish realm hmmm..time to build up again. Now i can have better wars than just sit up in top 10 waiting for nothing or to be downhitted by the top 3 in any case...have fun.

[Mr Ed]

Whoops, after almost 2 weeks of keeping the worthless Pesh worthless...looks like time for another burn

Course I have to thank that talkative bovine guy for hitting me and knocking me down closer to the asshole ...less turns per attack more damage

Pesh
Acres: 1886
Guildhalls: 35
Hovels: 14
Barracks: 29
Quarreys: 368
Temples: 1087

[J_sparten]

Well, just to point a lil something out. What I sended Celticprince was no warreport, it was a copy of the scroll. I usualy do that to show my opponent where we started cause I don't like to be called a bottom feeder.

BTW Celticprince, I appologie for the hard word for you in my first post about this. I just was pissed. I hate it when ppl. accuse me for something I haven't done. Well, no reason to call you names ... sorry.

[Tremordred]

Soveliss didn’t bother to check the war page – or did and didn’t care about my 10 hour old war declaration.

Anyway my arranged war with Morrisey I guess is cancelled. Would have been interesting to have a war of the parking lots.

Lots of mistakes being made by the top this age. Looks like whoever will be king is the one who makes the most mistakes. I am not sure what kind of message this is sending to the lower realms.

[godofwar4]

Lots of mistakes being made by the top this age. Looks like whoever will be king is the one who makes the most mistakes. I am not sure what kind of message this is sending to the lower realms.

Agreed. I don't post often, but I haven't played Solo in a few ages, due to a lack of time. However, I have come back this age, and unfortenetly I am one of the barnies stuck in the red sea just below the top 4 letos...

As far as I am concerned, the message the top letos are sending is to not let anymore letos who happen to jump up into the red sea stay in their fair wars and to send them right back down. Obviously the letos with power cannot control themselves, So why should the barnies control themselves?

I will point out that one leto has jumped into the sea of the red... I doubt he will last long, wether by my doing or someone elses...

***GW4

[Soveliss]

Soveliss didn’t bother to check the war page – or did and didn’t care about my 10 hour old war declaration.

Faaack...

I screwed up. I had been watching your dom on UB which apparently had not been updated since you declared on the new kd. I hit you this morning before heading off to class, guess I was somewhat in a rush.

I apologize to both kds involved. Trem, you're free to have the land back, pm me or catch me on msn or icq. I don't think I touched your build land (little that here was ) so should be able to set you back up for that PL war.

Lots of mistakes being made by the top this age. Looks like whoever will be king is the one who makes the most mistakes. I am not sure what kind of message this is sending to the lower realms.

None of my hits prior to this were "mistakes" so I would appreciate it if you did not generalize. I have been out of war for almost 3 weeks waiting for a decent target. You had about 5k acres more than me, and I truly believed you to not be at war when I hit you this morning.

[morissey]

Yeah, I have made my way to the top clump of letos by honorably defending my kingdom against attack. Just look how many defensive wars I have had in the UB database. You will notice that my one offensive war, I declared on the guy twice because he interfered in a war in which I had been declared upon. I couldn´t get through the first time I declared so I declared again to show the declaration was fresh... then I got hit again the next day and survived again.

The hits that Exile has made aren´t really horrible and Sove´s, while all being downhits (some under 100k... some not) weren´t HUGE downhits. I won´t defense QD at all though. I haven´t seen a non-downhit in the first 5 wars I looked at for him. As for Horza´s thoughts that ¨the top shouldn´t have to stop playing because they are on top¨........ I don´t buy that. Once I am on top, I like to be challenged because I could run over anyone if I so chose. I just don´t see any fun in downhitting to landwhore more when you have a solid lead because there is no challenge involved at all.

Trem deleted his kingdom halfway through for the challenge of getting back up to the top.... that has been made impossible and it wasn´t because he was beaten in a fair fight. So booooo.

[Soveliss]

The hits that Exile has made aren´t really horrible and Sove´s, while all being downhits (some under 100k... some not) weren´t HUGE downhits.

Have been in three wars this age not counting trem...

First was an UPHIT..

Second was a 50k downhit (closest not at war)

Third was 1096222 (me) vs. 928535 NW Again closest not at war, and I actually had less land than my target at the start of this war, NWs are deceiving.

[Tremordred]

Bah I am fine with it. Seems like an honest mistake to me. I was pissed because I had put some time and thought into my strategy for a parking lot vs. parking lot war. Especially with the human vs. goblin thing. Then I tuned in to find myself a new attacker and my plans were wasted.

Can't say I care about the lost land too much. I wouldn't delete halfway through if land was what its all about. Keep it - if only to annoy QD. hehe.

Trem deleted his kingdom halfway through for the challenge of getting back up to the top.... that has been made impossible and it wasn´t because he was beaten in a fair fight. So booooo.

Bah I still got plenty time to kick everyone's butt. Just you wait.

[Quick Draw]

In my deffence to hits made, good, bad, or indifferent. I gave Horza back his 55k acres from my last hit, and gave up the opportunity to finnish King.

[Stark]

Third was 1096222 (me) vs. 928535 NW Again closest not at war, and I actually had less land than my target at the start of this war, NWs are deceiving.

Soveliss...that war was with me. You hit me just a hair over a day after i had declared on someone else. Got no problem with the net worth deference just being hit in a one day old war. Seems that a person should at least give a guy 2 days and then only hit them if they have crushed their target. I may have had more land but i was only forted enough to keep my target from harming me not forted to defend against a higher net worth relm. Generally don't expect to be hit one day into a war by someone else. That won't happen again.

If you would of waited one more day then this blame game wouldn't be an issue.

[Soveliss]

Got no problem with the net worth deference just being hit in a one day old war. Seems that a person should at least give a guy 2 days and then only hit them if they have crushed their target.

Interesting...shall we...

26th Dec 2006 - 22:16EST - Stark (3****) - 674838 -- Target (1****) - 650081
27th Dec 2006 - 04:29EST : START OF WAR DETECTED
27th Dec 2006 - 04:30EST - Stark (3****) - 871178 -- Target (1****) - 193813


You hit your target sometime between Dec 26th 22:16 and Dec 27th 04:29

29th Dec 2006 - 00:53EST - Me (5****) - 1096222 -- Stark (3****) - 928535
29th Dec 2006 - 21:39EST - Me (5****) - 1609038 -- Stark (3****) - 386564
29th Dec 2006 - 21:39EST : START OF WAR DETECTED
30th Dec 2006 - 00:01EST - Me (5****) - 1609038 -- Stark (3****) - 313334

I hit you sometime between Dec 29 00:53 and Dec 29 21:39




Soooooo... you had between 44.5 and 71.5 hrs from your declaration to me hitting you.

[morissey]

he could have had 31-32 hours as well

which is just 7-8 hours over a full day

idk ..still not really justifiable since he was, like he said, forted for his little guy and not for u ..... and he was probably waiting for full turns to play again or something.

However, it´s solo so you really don´t HAVE to justify anything .... cuz I don´t really CARE per-se.

[Soveliss]

he could have had 31-32 hours as well

Or if you do your math properly you'll see that your wrong...

idk ..still not really justifiable since he was, like he said, forted for his little guy and not for u ..... and he was probably waiting for full turns to play again or something.

Here's the scout I took just prior to hitting him. You tell me if he was underforted. I mean I know 60 mill doesn't buy you what it used to but...

Start
Stark
Number: 3****
Race: Human
Faith: Barnabas
Guild: None
Turns: 43 Networth: 744974
Income: 803526
Expenses: 1432712
Peasants: 108480
Chest: 64543128
Turns Used: 2492 Acres: 32549
Guildhalls: 1752
Hovels: 1802
Barracks: 7149
Quarreys: 8079
Temples: 1912 Northmen: 2
Foresters: 0
Ellis: 0
Fortresses: 0
Dragons: 5146
Citites: 14556 Elite
Green
Green
Green
Elite
Elite
Allies:

[morissey]

He had way too much scum, probably assuming his target would come at him with that method. Unless that is how he normally forts... which sure as hell isn´t the way I would, he was forted in case his target would burn him.

Either way for him, I burned an SNK a bit ago that was right under me on the scrolls.

I gave them the stipulation that they hit me with war and I gave them three days to get it done or else I will move to the next person. I don´t know if it will work that way or not ... take into account that I am not actually offensively fighting here.... I´m just giving them the chance to hit me cuz my PL doesn´t really allow me to go offensive anyway.

[J_sparten]

Well, don't want to disturb above discussion. Just an update on my new war. No idea who the leader is. I made scout and found him with only thieves and no troops. Well I am going to take the land.

I am not proud of it, but who is so dump and has no protection at all. I checked war page, He was at war on 11. Jan. but from yesterday till today there is no change in his kingdom so he isnt't anymore at war.

J

[Horza]

Soveliss didn’t bother to check the war page – or did and didn’t care about my 10 hour old war declaration.

Anyway my arranged war with Morrisey I guess is cancelled. Would have been interesting to have a war of the parking lots.

Lots of mistakes being made by the top this age. Looks like whoever will be king is the one who makes the most mistakes. I am not sure what kind of message this is sending to the lower realms.

Tell me about it. Was in war with Muncheez, when QD hit less than a day later. QD makes good, but I'm not reforted when a third kingdom (3----), hit me. What a jerk - he knows that I'm working things out with QD, yet he decides to swoop in and flatten my kingdom tho I only have a light scum screen up. So I bequeathed my land to someone else.

13th Jan 2007 - (3----) attacked me
10th Jan 2007 - QD (5----) attacked me
10th Jan 2007 - me (1-----) attacked Muncheez (3-----)

I really don't understand what the last barnie kingdom was thinking. Why wreck the game for someone else (me)? If he had given me 24 hours to recover from regaining my land from QD, then I would be appauding him for his uphit. But to hit me when I was working things out with QD, and before I had up my usual scum was nothing more than vandalism. He got no acres from his b-llsh-t, and at least I scummed down his temples.

[Horza]

so I ask that Barnie why he hit me under the circumstances, and this is his response:

From Margrave Sc-------- of ------- (3----)
2007-01-18 12:04:19 Reply Delete
Didn't see the other wars. Sorry.

-Sc----


What the h-ll? There are a few places to look:

1. my declaration against muncheez in the in-game war dec. page
2. QD's declaration against me in the in-game war dec page
3. my posts in the war thread concerning both muncheez and QD
4. QD's posts about the war
5. the solo db set up for this very reason that shows my war against muncheez
6. the solo db that shows QD's war against me.
7. the variation on my NW of over a million

Gee - I guess it was tricky to ferret out these secret wars . . .

[Mecor daan Draal]

Tell me about it. Was in war with Muncheez, when QD hit less than a day later. QD makes good, but I'm not reforted when a third kingdom (3----), hit me. What a jerk - he knows that I'm working things out with QD, yet he decides to swoop in and flatten my kingdom tho I only have a light scum screen up. So I bequeathed my land to someone else.

I really don't understand what the last barnie kingdom was thinking. Why wreck the game for someone else (me)? If he had given me 24 hours to recover from regaining my land from QD, then I would be appauding him for his uphit. But to hit me when I was working things out with QD, and before I had up my usual scum was nothing more than vandalism. He got no acres from his b-llsh-t, and at least I scummed down his temples.

for the record, it wasnt me lol...

[Stark]

Soveliss... it maybe you gave me more time than i thought. It just seemed you hit me in a very short time after i hit my target.

I'm not really bitching about it. If i wanted to bitch about it i would of done it at the time you hit me.

[Dux]

The lower ranks hold such better targets.... 13k acres with only green troops defending, my 8k kingdom gorged itself.

[Aschreim]

J scouted me, so I hit him.

I have been sitting here for prolly a month and haven't hit anyone. He was above me before I hit.

[Celticprince]

No need for the apology Spartan Everyone I have spoke too vouches for your honour in the game I believe you had no knowledge of Kaziem's unwanted assistance

I apologize for my own harsh words.

[J_sparten]

What a cheap excuse Asch !!!!

When you take a look at the war-table you can see that I scouted around to find a target. I found one and declared on him, well useless to say that I don't need to bother anymore about my just started war.

But it is good to know that I can hit anyone who scout me, no matter if he has gone to war with anyone else or not or maybe got under attack by someone else in the meantime. I will remember this when I see next time that you go to war Asch. Expect my troops !!!

Now I am pissed. Seems there is no more honor these days in Solo. All are just looking for cheap excuses to get the most for themself. Whining and accusing all over the place. I would suggest everyone takes it as a war game and don't bother anymore about unwritten rules of behavior. So no complaining needed in the future.

Since I started again this age I got only downhitted and dirturbed in own wars. Well, guess this is a sign to play as the most others play too.

The only possibility to play seems to play merciless and without respect or you get kicked around yourself.

Expect me top play like this in the future

edit : I forgott to mention, that I was below you when I scouted you Asch and was later above you cause I got land from my war. Not that anyone may think I looked for someone to downhit. Well in future I will not longer care

Celticprince, don't mind. You were pissed at this moment. I understand that, cause at the moment it's me who is pissed. You are ok See ya around. /edit