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9/11 Inside Job

Postby owly » Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:22 pm

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Re: 9/11 Inside Job

Postby Grunt » Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:51 pm

uhhh no
it was not an inside job
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Re: 9/11 Inside Job

Postby owly » Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:03 pm

i seen video of one of the towers going down and it looked like there was small explosions like it was pre rigged. It was convincing enough to me that maybe it was a conspiracy and the buildings was set to blow so to speak. i will look for the video and post it here if i find it. And a question i was asking myself why did the bomb dogs get pulled out of the buildings a few days before it happened.
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Re: 9/11 Inside Job

Postby owly » Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:26 pm

Not that i believe it was a conspiracy, i more interested in your guys thoughts for those people who claim it is, i'll try my hardest to get a real good conspiracy video on utube....
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Re: 9/11 Inside Job

Postby ~Vox~ » Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:27 pm

When a building falls from the top down it tends to blow the windows out as it falls. It's called pressure.


And i highly doubt bomb dogs were removed just to blow them up, if anything they would of just replaced them with non-bomb sniffing dogs to not raise suspicion. The bomb dogs were removed because security level went back to normal. Bomb dogs are not stationed there full time.

As a fireman i've been in and around many burning and falling buildings. Hearing 'explosions' is not uncommon, but it doesn't mean it was a bomb.
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Re: 9/11 Inside Job

Postby owly » Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:36 pm

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Re: 9/11 Inside Job

Postby ~Vox~ » Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:44 pm

Maybe they did replace them ;p


Turns out each tower had a dog and handler in the parking basements checking cars and baggage even on 9/11 according to one site i just read.

But like most everything else about the 'conspiracy' or lack of it don't prove it one way or the other.




Same people who come up with this are still trying to figure out who shot JFK
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Re: 9/11 Inside Job

Postby ~Vox~ » Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:46 pm

I stopped watching when he said a fire couldn't do it.


Apparently he never saw a magnesium fire. It's why you jettison a plane off a ship if it catches on fire because it will burn all the way through the ship.
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Re: 9/11 Inside Job

Postby Grunt » Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:47 pm

And some idiots do not believe the Obama birth cirtificate
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Re: 9/11 Inside Job

Postby owly » Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:48 pm

Very true
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Re: 9/11 Inside Job

Postby ~Vox~ » Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:20 am

Obama has a birth certificate?!?!?!


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Re: 9/11 Inside Job

Postby Dauthi » Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:47 am

~Vox~ wrote:

Same people who come up with this are still trying to figure out who shot JFK


Well let them keep guessing as long as they don't actualy come looking in my direction then life will be peachy !!


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Re: 9/11 Inside Job

Postby owly » Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:57 am

i was saying very true to Vox, i enlisted a friend to help me find the video....

http://www.patriotsaints.com/News/911/C ... index.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i06RAC6YprI
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Re: 9/11 Inside Job

Postby zenpig » Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:05 am

owly wrote:Not that i believe it was a conspiracy, i more interested in your guys thoughts for those people who claim it is, i'll try my hardest to get a real good conspiracy video on utube....


http://www.bofunk.com/video/4816/conspiracy_week.html

The guy on the right with sunglasses of that video wrote this piece which is one of my favorite takedowns of these nuts..it's an older article which used to have a lot of good pics but got moved and the links to the pics no longer works.

of course, Popular Mechanics did a pretty good service by debunking much of the myths and illustrating that many of the conspiracy arguments use strawmen as a starting point...like, no one thinks steel has to melt for it to loose structural integrity yet the claim one always hears is that the fire didn't get hot enough to melt steel.
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Re: 9/11 Inside Job

Postby owly » Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:52 am

Hahaha lol, this is already coming out in my new book 'Sackscratch and You'....
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Re: 9/11 Inside Job

Postby owly » Tue Sep 15, 2009 2:25 pm

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Re: 9/11 Inside Job

Postby Asoc » Tue Sep 15, 2009 2:54 pm

This conspiracy crap is a joke.
All the shit they come up with is explained away by common sense and science.

People who believe this stuff need to just shoot themselves. Do the human gene pool a favor.
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Re: 9/11 Inside Job

Postby owly » Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:00 pm

Like i said i don't believe it was a conspiracy i do wonder what the other booms and blasts was, and i wonder why a big plane the size of a 747 would leave such a small hole in the Pentagon, it to me seems like a small air-plane that slammed into their building....
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Re: 9/11 Inside Job

Postby Grunt » Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:15 pm

Those asking the questions never accept the answers
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Re: 9/11 Inside Job

Postby owly » Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:45 pm

Sometimes we do
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Re: 9/11 Inside Job

Postby bigSparky » Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:59 pm

I really love the part on the first vid, about 2 minutes 40 seconds in, with fucking Rosie O'donnel screaming about how never in history has fire ever melted steel. That fire melting steel goes against every law of physics. Never mind the fact that steel is born of fire. But hey, I'm no physicist. I can barely spell it. I guess all the steel I've cut with a torch (uhm, can you say fire mixed with oxygen under pressure...I knew you could) was just my imagination. That little quarter inch diameter flame wasn't really melting the steel and blowing it out of the way. That would completely defy all the laws of physics.

The fire doesn't need to "melt" the steel. It doesn't even need to get it red hot. Close to red hot, and under pressure, it starts to lose it's structural integrity. The problem is it begins to sag, thus pulling everything in towards the center. Up to a point, in a fire, wood is actually more structurally sound than steel. They teach you that in first semester structural engineering at Loyola. The fibers in the wood hold it together long after the steel has started to give.

All the people it would take to pull off a conspiracy of that magnitude is fairly mind boggling. We're talking twenty, maybe thirty THOUSAND folks who would have to have been in on it.
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Re: 9/11 Inside Job

Postby owly » Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:09 pm

i thought the same thing when Rosy said that, i'm a certified welder unlimited, and i know the right amount of oxygen and fire can melt/cut steel.....
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Re: 9/11 Inside Job

Postby Nato » Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:58 pm

I think ACORN did it.
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Re: 9/11 Inside Job

Postby zenpig » Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:17 pm

Nato wrote:I think ACORN did it.


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Re: 9/11 Inside Job

Postby Reylan Talonspyre » Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:53 pm

I think it is always healthy to question what you read, watch, and hear. I also think it is good to question standard belief structure and commonly held mores. I think much investigation was done on those buildings. I think it we, as Americans, would be hard pressed to believe that the running of a 747 or two into a skyscraper at breakneck speeds wouldn't be enough damage to begin a catastrophic chain of events that led to the deaths of 3,000+ American civilians.

To believe that the United States government would actively kill American citizenry in an attempt to do what? What would they get? Did George Bush become Emperor? We must remember, this is not a movie, it is not surreal where the pieces just fit together and we figure out that Dick Cheney is actually a cyborg from another galaxy.

He might be, but I like his galaxy.

The point is, it is always good to keep an open mind, but not so open that your brains fall out.
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